New Way Stationary Engines

Aim - To serve and support the New Way Stationary Engine restoration community.
There was a New Way Stationary Motor inclined to Hit and Miss. It was designed that way but intermittently it would missfire and this in the confines of the beekeepers shed fired my imagination, grabbing my senses. I just loved the sound of the New Way 3.5Hp working - likely fuelled by a too rich mixture.
With each missfire came the tell tale puff of blue smoke and via the old sawbench, the beekeeping manufacturing business was underway, alive and well. Alf was in his element. Romance, nah, hard work but Hoots the New Way went a long way in firing the imagination of times past running in the present. The present, after all, that's where life is, it's not in the past, but romancing the past, that's the present if you're living it.
The priveledge of life. Present and past is now!!! - alive.

Ye Olde Sawbench & New Way Motor kept company by Howard Rotary Hoes

Monday, July 29, 2019

New Way M Series Engines

MODEL OVERVIEW
The M Series New Way Engines have always presented a quandary when trying to identify a particular model within the range.

New Way Engines are generally readily identified by looking at the size of the cylinder. Further, often the cylinder part number also tells you the not only the model but also the type of the engine. The raised casting number is generally found on the cylinder close to the crankcase join.

By referencing the cylinder in parts tables for a particular series engine it is then very easy to determine the H.P. of your New Way Engine. This means even if the ID plate is missing or it wasn't fitted to your model engine as is the case from factory for some models, you can still tell exactly what model engine you have.
Problem? - New Way Motor Company like many companies used interchangeable parts not only within engine series but also across engine series. For the later series engines, using the same cylinder part, the cylinder part number will give you the H.P. but it will obviously not give you the Model.

No ID Plates or missing shroud? -  New Way Motor Company did not fit ID plates to some series engines including to the J Series and M Series. In some cases the shroud was designated with H.P., model and type but often over the years shrouds were removed. Obviously, identification problems are compounded when the shroud is missing or text is no longer legible.

For engines that have no ID plate, New Way Motor Company also resorted to stamping the serial number, often on a machined section at the join on the Cylinder and Crankcase on a general alignment with the oiler. In cases where the number is prefixed by a letter the letter indicates the Model and therefore the H.P.. eg U884
NOTE: The engine serial number is stamped. It is not the raised casting number you will probably see on the cylinder. Raised numbers are the generic part number. eg FC39 for a certain size cylinder.

"M" SERIES ENGINES - SAME SERIES DIFFERENT TYPE
Series M engines spanned key progressions in engineering and technology so that they were classified both as Type C and with progression to throttle governing, as Type F.
  • EARLY Series M engines were fitted out and defined as Type "C" engines using the same cylinder parts as the "J" Series engines.
    • Gasoline engines were all literally Type "C" as they had no Throttle governing but remained a Hit- Miss engine
    • Kerosene engines were initially called Type "C" but were later called the standard designation of Type "F" as they were literally throttle governed engines.
  • LATER Kerosene Series M Engines were fitted out as and defined as Type "F" engines
    • Engineering also progressed from a bolt on inlet port to an inlet port casting that was integral part of the cylinder casting. 
      • ie. "J" series cylinders were not used 
PARTS INTERCHANGEABILITY APPLICATION

Applicable to "J" SERIES engines and the early "M" Series Type C Engines.
  1. "J" Series and "M" Series engines had the same H.P. range
  2. "J" Series Horizontal Engines were in production first so Cylinder Casting numbers of early M Series engines literally apply to the "J" Series.
  3. "M" Series Engines - Consequently, Cylinder Part number only indicates H.P not the Model
    1. Raised Casting Number on Cylinder
      1. 2 letters prefix 39 in all cases eg. FC39 for a 3 H.P. engine
      2. Use this to determine H.P. of Type "C" engines and earlier kerosene Type "F".
RESEARCHING and DETERMINING A SERIES "M" MODEL

Source of information used in research to determine "M" series models includes:

  • Engine Instruction Manuals
  • New Way Sales Catalogs
  • Original designated shrouds from registered engines.
  • Following established New Way protocols for engine identification. 

EARLY M SERIES ENGINES -
DETERMINING MODEL of a Type C Engine

  • With "M" Series engines fitted with "J" Series cylinders, the cylinder casting number defines the H.P. of the engine as shown in the manual parts tables.
  • Additionally some stamped serial numbers are prefixed with the Model alpha code eg "U2431 for a 3.5 H.P. engine.
  • Shrouds are specific to M Series engines so their part number code reflects the actual Model and Type. [Refer Table]
  • Both Kerosene and Gasoline engines were initially designated Type "C". 



LATER M SERIES ENGINES
DETERMINING "M" SERIES MODEL of a Type F Engine
  •  Serial Number may be prefixed by the letter dictating the model eg P1245
  • Later Kerosene engines used standard throttle governed typing of Type "F"
  • Cylinder / inlet Casting Number may not be a standard xx39 but use a generic New Way code of LFC .
    • "LFC" was used by New Way Motor Company on other early engines. (possibly a prototype designation until the casting was accepted by engineering)    
  • Cooling Hood (shroud) that surrounds the cylinder is individual to each model of "M" Series engine. The Cooling Hood part numbers, being model specific, therefore reflect the model but not necessarily the type if it is a late kerosene engine.   
IDENTIFICATION TABLE
NOTE:- The Cooling Hood part number [3rd column] being model specific, reflects the model and type of the engine except for later throttle governed, kerosene Type "F engines.

CYL. CASTING NUMBER
HORSE POWER
COOLING HOOD
Part No.
SERIES
MODEL
TYPE
Note 1
VARIANT
Note 2
NC39
1.5 H.P.
SC80
M
S
C

DC39
2.0 H.P.
KC80
M
K
C
K - Kerosene
OC39
2.5 H.P.
PC80
M
P
C
K - Kerosene
FC39
3.0 H.P.
MC80
M
M
C
K - Kerosene
TC39
3.5 H.P.
UC80
M
U
C
K - Kerosene
GC39
4.0 H.P.
RC80
M
R
C
K - Kerosene
??
4.5 H.P.

M
R
C
K - Kerosene
VC39
6.0 H.P.
WC80
M
W
C
K - Kerosene


TABLE NOTE 1:- Engines that are Type "F" will be designated as an "F" in the type column. Applies to some "later" Throttle Governed Kero engines only.
TABLE NOTE 2:- Kerosene engines are recorded for all sizes except the 2 H.P. engine. The Serial Number often carries a suffix of "K" to indicate that fact.
  •  eg for a 6 H.P. it may show W4012K

Sales brochures supported this with an additional Typing of "K" for kerosene engines. 
  • Example - A 6 H.P. kero engine fully described would be either:
    • Series M Model W Type CK  
    • Series M Model W Type FK

Bolt-on Intake Port Casting
Intake Port cast as part of Cylinder Casting
 M Series Intakes

Early versions were the same as the "J" Series engines as shown in the left photo. [Bolt On]

Later version engines had the intake port cast as part of the cylinder casting as shown in the right photo[Early "Standard" engine design principle but using parallel top fins in lieu of radial top fins]



IN A NUT SHELL:
The M Series Model and Type for a particular HP engine can generally be determined by looking at your engine's cylinder casting number eg FC39. By looking at the Instruction Manual parts list, this will tell you it's HP and also what the Shroud Part Number is in this case is MC80.

  • So with FC39 we know it is 3 H.P.
  • With MC80 we know it is Model "M" Type "C"
    • the only exception is if it is a late model Kero engine in which case it is a Type "F"  - so Model "M" Type "F
It is only the Type that changes with advances in technology and then only for the Kerosene Throttle Governed Engine as standard type "F" is adopted. 

OUR APPEAL:
All of the "M" Series Instruction Manuals we own, seen or inquired about only have the Bolt-on intake setup illustrations and so only list "J" Series cylinder parts (as shown in column 1 of the table.)

I would be very keen to hear from anyone who might have an Instruction Manual that shows the fully cast combined Cylinder/Intake casting and lists the part numbers for this new part. 

By example, younger Instruction Manuals for very early Standard Engines listed parts and showed changes generally by specifying year of production. The first manuals for these engines are obviously devoid of this detail.

It may well be that New Way never produced an instruction manual for their later engine given that it operated exactly the same as the one using the "J" Series cylinders.  

Can you help by checking your Series M manual? If you find what we are chasing please send us an email.

Cheers
George













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