New Way Stationary Engines

Aim - To serve and support the New Way Stationary Engine restoration community.
There was a New Way Stationary Motor inclined to Hit and Miss. It was designed that way but intermittently it would missfire and this in the confines of the beekeepers shed fired my imagination, grabbing my senses. I just loved the sound of the New Way 3.5Hp working - likely fuelled by a too rich mixture.
With each missfire came the tell tale puff of blue smoke and via the old sawbench, the beekeeping manufacturing business was underway, alive and well. Alf was in his element. Romance, nah, hard work but Hoots the New Way went a long way in firing the imagination of times past running in the present. The present, after all, that's where life is, it's not in the past, but romancing the past, that's the present if you're living it.
The priveledge of life. Present and past is now!!! - alive.

Ye Olde Sawbench & New Way Motor kept company by Howard Rotary Hoes

New Way Engine - Identification Table

NOTE:- ENGINE IDENTIFICATION - The CYLINDER SIZE controls the Bore and Stroke of an engine and therefore the HP of the engine. New Way Motor Company identified their cylinders with a Casting Number. (not always clear - then look further)

It is listed here [Column 2] as it is a simple means for you to look at your engine and see what HP/Model you have. The format is generally xx-39 where xx varies according to Model/Hp.

Please note:- This only applies to the Cylinder Casting No. as common parts over various HP/Models will have the same casting number.

In most cases the casting number [Raised text] is found on the cylinder wall often not far from where the oiler fits.

USE MOUSE OVER with a computer mouse for acronym meanings in the table in Governor / Fuel / Fin (cooling) Column. 


 NOTE:- Owner registrations allow expansion of detail / accuracy of this Identification Table. Can you help?  Peruse here, then look at the REGISTRY, it now has near 300 Engines from 6 countries represented.

The New Way Motor Company's overarching means of grouping similar characteristic engines of various sizes was by "SERIES". 
Consequently engines within a series generally have common characteristics that can be used to visually identify to which series an engine belongs.
  1. SERIES "S" STANDARD ENGINES -  Early Heavy Duty Engines
    1. Radial Cooling fins on top of cylinder 
      1. When an exhaust rocker was used the standard circular cylinder fins extend up to the top of the cylinder. Radial fins not fitted because of the valve/rocker setup.
    2. Series "S" engines were fitted with a belt driven cylinder mounted cooling fan/s.
  2. SERIES "J" JEWEL (Light Duty) ENGINES
    1. Horizontal Engine
    2. Parallel Cooling fins on top of cylinder
    3. Early 1.5HP engines were open crank. Later Jewel engines of all sizes were fitted with a curved crankcase cover. 
  3. SERIES "F" ENGINES
    1. Vertical Engine
    2. Parallel Cooling fins on top of cylinder
    3. Early "F" engines were fitted with a belt driven cylinder mounted cooling fan.
    4. Later "F" engines were fitted with a flywheel mounted fan. (squirrel cage style)
    5. In very rare cases radial fins were used on top of cylinders
    6. 2 piece crank case with hinge for maintenance ease.
  4. SERIES "M" ENGINES
    1. Vertical Engine
    2. Parallel Cooling fins on top of cylinder - "M" Series engines used the same cylinders as the "J" Series engines consequently their casting numbers are those of the "J"series since they were produced first. 
    3. "M" engines were fitted with a belt driven cylinder mounted cooling fan
    4. 1 piece crank case with no hinge
  5. SERIES "A" ENGINES
    1. Vertical Engine
    2. Latest New Way engines
      1. Compact, lighter than early engines
      2. Modern attributes all models with Throttle Governing
    3. Early Series "A" engines had radial cooling fins to top of cylinder (CH & DH Models)
    4. Later Series "A"engines utilised a separate head with parallel miniture vertical fins.


"TABLE START"
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F
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E
L
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F
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1
ZC
-39
J/Z/C
Pump
1 1"


x
4
Single -
15½
x1  
H/M
/L

FIN
6/10
FIN
2
ZC
-39
J/Z/C  1 1"


x
4
Dual-
15½
x1 
H/M
/L

FIN
6/10
FIN
3
ZC
-39
J/Z/C    1 1"


x
4
Dual-
15½
x1 
H/M
/U

FIN
6/10
FIN
1
NC
-39
J/N/C    1.5


x
4⅛
Dual-
16
x2
H/M
/S

FIN
7/9
FIN
2 NC-
39A
J/N/C 1.5

x
4⅛
Dual-
18
Pre
Std
H/M
/S

FIN
3/10
FIN
3 NC
-39
J/N/C 1.5
x
4⅛
Dual-
16
x2
H/M
/L

FIN
7/10
FIN
1 DC
-39
J/D/C 2.0 4
x
4⅛
Dual-
18
x2¼
H/M
/S

FIN
3/11
FIN
2 DC
-39
J/D/C 2.0 4
x
4⅛
Dual-
18
x2¼
H/M
/L

FIN
7/11
FIN
1 OC
-39
J/O/C 2.5

x
Dual-
18
Pre
Std

(CF)
H/M
/S

FIN
3/10
FIN
2 OC
-39
J/O/C 2.5

x
Dual-
18
x2¼
H/M
/S

FIN
3/11
FIN
3 OC
-39
J/O/C 2.5
4
x
4
Dual-
18
x2¼
H/M
/S

FIN
3/11
FIN
4 OC
-39
J/O/C 2.5
x
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
H/M
/L

FIN
7/10
FIN
5 OC
-39
J/O/C 2.5
x
Dual-
18
x2¼
H/M
/L

FIN
7/11
FIN
1 FC
-39
J/F/C 3.0
x
5¾ 
Dual-
19x
2
3/16
H/M
/S

FIN
3/12
FIN
2 FC
-39
J/F/C 3.0
x
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
H/M
/S

FIN
3/14
FIN
3 FC
-39
J/F/C 3.0 ?
x
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
H/M
/S

FIN
7/12
FIN
1 TC
-39
J/T/C 3.5
x
6
Dual-
21½
x2½
H/M
/L

FIN
?/?
FIN
2 TC
-39
J/T/C 3.5
x
6
Dual-
21½
x2½
H/M
FIN
?/?
FIN
1 GC
-39
J/G/C 4.0

x
5
Dual-
18x
Pre-Std
H/M
FIN
3/11
FIN
2 GC
-39
J/G/C 4.0 4
x
6
Dual-
21½
x2½
Early
H/M
/L

FIN
7/15
FIN
3 GC
-39
J/G/C 4.0 4
x
6
Dual-
24x2½
Later
H/M
/L

FIN
7/16
FIN
1 ?C
-39
J/?/C 5.5

Dual ? H/M
FIN
?/?
FIN
1 VC
-39
J/V/C 6.0

x
7
Dual-
27
x3¾
H/M
FIN
?/?
FIN
2 VC
-39
J/V/C 6.0

x
7
Dual-
27
x3¾
H/M
/L

FIN
10/16
FIN
3 VC
-39
J/V/C 6.0 2"
x
7
Dual-
27
x3¾
H/M
/L

FIN
10/15
FIN
1 ?C
-39
J/?/C 7.0

Dual? H/M
FIN
?/?
FIN
1 HC
-39
S/H/C 6.0 2"
Dual -
27
x3¾
H/M
/L

FIN
11/16
FIN
2 HC
-39
S/H/C 6.5 2"
Dual -
30
x3¾
H/M
FIN
?/?
FIN
1 ?C
-39
S/?/C 7.0


H/M
FIN
?/?
FIN
1 NC
-39
S/B/C 6/7
4⅝
x
6
Dual-
20x
H/M
/S

FIN
6/13
FIN
1 NC
-39
S/BA
/E
7
4⅝
x
6
Dual-
20x
H/M
/S

FIN

1 JC
-39
RHS
S/J/C 8.0 1
Dual-
26
x4½
H/M
/SS

FIN
9/15
FIN
2 JC
-39
RHS
S/J/C 8.0 1
Dual-
26
x4½
H/M
/TL

FIN
9/15
FIN
1 JC
-39
RHS
S/J/F 8.0

Dual-
26
x4½
TGC
FIN

1 LC
-39
RHS
S/L/C 12 2
x
8
Dual-
34
x4½
H/M
/TL

FIN
11/16
FIN
1
S/L/
?D
12

Dual- TGC
FIN

1 LC
-39B
RHS
S/L/F 12

Dual- TGC
FIN
11/16
FIN
1 C-
39
S/C/C 2.5

Dual-
19 x
H/M
/S

FIN
6/11
FIN
2 C-
39
S/C/C 2.5

Dual-
19 x
H/M
/S

FIN

1 A-
39
S/A/C 3.0
to
3.5


x
6
Dual-
20
x
?
H/M
/S

FIN
6/13
FINS


2 A-
39
S/A/C 3.5

x
6
Dual-
20
x
?
H/M
/S

FIN
6/12
FIN
1 EC
-39
S/E/C 4.5 111/16
x
6
Dual-
22
x2½
H/M
/S

FIN
9/15
FIN
2 EC
-39
S/E/C 4.5 111/16
x
6
Dual-
22
x2½
H/M
/S

FIN
9/15
FIN
3 EC
-39
S/E/C
Aust.
Man.
4.5 111/16
x
6
Dual-
22x
27/16
H/M
/S

FIN
9/16
FIN
1 DD
-39
S/D/D 6.0
6
x
8
Dual - H/M
/S

FIN
20
FIN
2 DD
-39
S/D/D 6.0
6
x
8
Dual - H/M
/S

FIN
22
FIN
1 DF-
39A
F/D/F 4.0
x
Single
18
x2¼
TGC
FIN
7/11
FIN
2 DF-
39A
F/D/F 4.0
x

Single
18
x2¼
TGC
FIN
7/11
FIN
3 DF-
39A
F/D/F 4.0
x
4¼ 
Single
18x
115/16
TGC
FIN

4 ?-
39
F/D/F 5.0

Single
18?
TGC
FIN

1 CF-
39
F/C/F 4.5 17/16
x
Single TGC
FIN
4/11
FIN
2 CF-
39
F/C/F 4.5 1½
x
Single
19x2
TGC
FIN

3 CF-
39
F/C/F 4.5 1½
x
Single TGC
FIN

1 AF-
39
F/A/F 6.0 1½
Single
20x
TGC
FIN

2 AF-
39
F/A/F 6.0 1½
Single
20x
TGC
FIN
7/13
FIN
3 AF-
39
F/A/F 6.0 1½
x
6
Single
20x
2
TGC
FIN

1 EF-
39
F/E/F 7.5 111/16
x
Single
22x
TGC
1 NC
-39
M/SC
/F
Fuel
1.5
Dual
16
x2
H/M
/S

FIN

1 DC
-39
M/KC
/F
FuelM/
2.0
Dual-
18
x2¼
H/M
C
FIN

7/11
FIN
2 DC
-39
M/KC
/K
Kero
2.0
Dual-
18
x2¼
T/G
KEC
FIN
7/11
FIN

1 OC
-39
M/PC
/F
Fuel
2.5
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
H/M
C
FIN
7/11
FIN
2 ?-
39
M/DC
/F
2.5
x
?
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
H/M
C
FIN
7/11
FIN
1 FC-
39
M/ME
/F
Fuel
3.0
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
H/M
C
FIN
7/12
FIN
2 FC-
39
M/ME
/K
Kero
3.0
Dual-
18¾
x2¼
T/G
KEC
FIN
7/12
FIN
1 TC-
39
M/U/F
Fuel
3.5
Dual-
21½
x2¼
H/M
/L

FIN
7/12
FIN
2 TC-
39
M/U/F
Fuel
3.5
Dual-
21½
x2¼
T/G
KEC
FIN

3 TC-
39
M/U/K
Fuel
3.5
Dual-
21½
x2½
T/G
KEC
FIN

1 GC
-39
M/RC
/F
Fuel
4.0 4
x
6½
Dual-
21½
x2¼
H/M
/L

FIN

2 GC
-39
M/RC
/K
Kero
4.0 4
x
6½
Dual-
21½
x2¼
T/G
KEC
FIN
7/12
FIN
3
M/RE
/K
Kero
4.0
Dual-
21½
x2¼
T/G
KEC
FIN

1
M/RC
/K
Kero
4.5 111/16
Dual-
22
x2½
T/G
KEC
FIN
9/16
FIN
1 VC
-39
M/WC
/F
Fuel
6.0 2
Dual-
27
x3¾
H/M

10/16
FIN?
2 VC
-39
M/WC
/K
Kero
6.0 2
Dual-
27
x3¾
T/G
KEC

10/16
FIN
1
A/C/R
Mar-
ine
5.0
4⅛
x
4⅛
Mono
?
TGC
FIN

2 CH
-39
A/C/H 5.0 1? 4⅛
x
4⅛
Mono-
195/16
TGC
FIN
7/10 
FIN
3 CH
-39
A/C/H 5.0
x
Mono-
19x2
TGC
FIN

1 CH-
39?
A/C/H 6.0

Mono
?x?
TGC
FIN

1 BH
-39
A/B/H 3.0 ?
x4
Mono
?x?
TGC
SHF
5 /8
FIN
1 DH
-39
A/D/H 8.0

x5½
Mono
Solid
?x?
TGC
FIN
7/14
FIN
1 FH
-39
A/F.H 5.0 ?
x
4
Mono
?x?
TGC
SHF
5 /8
FIN
1 EH
-39
A/E/H 8.0
2cl
3x4
Mono
?x?
TGC
SHF
42/6
FIN
1 GH-
39?
A/G/H 10

Mono
?x?
TGC


1 JH-
39?
A/J/H 6?

x
4
Mono
?x?
TGC
SHF
6/8
FIN
1 LH-
39?
A/L/H 7.5?


TGC


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NOTES 
New Way  Engine - Identification Table

  1. This is the general specifications table. Click REGISTRY to access the New Way  Owners Registry. Further owner registrations allows us expand detail and accuracy of this Identification Table.
  2. Horizontal Twin Opposed Motors - It is expected that early versions of these motors were fitted with radial finned cylinder ends and the later versions having the circular cylinder finning throughout and later still New Way returned again to the radial finned ends . 
  3. F SERIES Vertical Motors - Early versions utilised the belt driven cylinder mounted fan with later versions (c.1917 on) utilising a flywheel mounted fan.
  4. NEW WAY MOTORS GENERALLY - Expect that earlier version (year) applies to a round belted cylinder mounted fan model motor as against the same model motor fitted with a flat belted fan drive. (later version) Flat belted fan drive was very popular by Late-Teens until the flywheel mounted fan was generally fitted.
  5. M SERIES Motors - Model identification was only printed on the shroud and so not readily determined if the motor was exposed to the elements. Resort to mechanical specifications to determine model. NOTE - This is likely because the cylinders used on this vertical range of engines were the same as was used on their horizontal "Jewel" range and so cylinders carry the same casting numbers as the Jewel engines.
  6. MANUFACTURER - Earlier motors were built by "New-Way" Motor Company while many "New Way" motors manufactured in the 1930s were actually produced by the "New-Way" Engine and Machine Company who continued production in Lansing Michigan.
  7. Remember for me to get this right I really do need the help of other enthusiasts - there are gaps to fill, photo's to find.
  8. Thanks in advance for Table Update Information or corrections. Use comments or emails as a service to other New Way owners in their quest to identify and restore. My email - geo.covey@gmail.com or hit the comments button and leave a comment, even say hello. Cheers.

3 comments:

  1. can anyone tell me any info on a new way air cooled horizontal h/m?, serial #d667. flywheels measure 18X2, twin flywheels, splash and drip lube. flywheels state; the new way motor co. lansing, michigan, u.s.a.

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  2. wade,
    It will be a 2Hp Series "J" New Way. If you have a look in the library you can download a "J" series instruction manual that will give you a lot of answers. (Aprox c 1917)

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  3. Hi, I recently purchased sight unseen a piston water pump powered by "an old engine"!! I picked it up today and have found it has a New Way 2.5HP vertical engine with an engine number of 1920. The pump and engine appear in very good order (pump gears show no sign of wear. The entire unit has been stored in a shed and not exposed to the elements for a very long time, the current owner purchased the pump and engine 19 years ago when his neighbour died, he hadn't got around to picking it up until today as the widow is going to sell the farm. Fortunately some things move very slowly in the country!

    Can anyone advise from the engine number what the likely year of manufacture was.

    Obviously I need to do much more research but am keen to know how old it is. I intend to dismantle and check all is ok then put the pump unit into service on one of my cattle properties.

    Thanks Chris Gorham
    Northern NSW Australia.
    cggorham@hotmail.com

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